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myownworld
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:39 pm Reply with quote Back to top

ubds wrote:
The person behind the wheel would be the same as the murderer firing the gun, it's the person that kills, speed is the gun powder and vehicle is the bullet.

When we say speed kills, it's meant as speed for conditions, many people usually young and inexperienced drivers go too fast and lose control, killing themselves, occupants or other road users.

may be we could call it idiots kill


lol nice way of putting it! Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

myownworld wrote:
Welcome to Fun And Safe Driving ubds. Thank you for joining the forum.


Thank you!
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Elinor80
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:26 am Reply with quote Back to top

this statement is one of fact, but what puzzles me is this is a statement in relation to vehicular traffic on the roads,but yet, we see trains now being manufactured to be able to accomplish very fast times does it not apply to trains that speed kills also,? we have seen horrendous results of trains crashing, my contention is the faster you go, the less chance you have of survival is that not so?.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:34 am Reply with quote Back to top

Well, I think you are confusing the goal of transportation with the constraints it has. Like in "your Safety is our goal" messages printed on the buses, you know. Smile

Safety is not the goal, safety is a limitation or a constraint if you will. Goal is to get a passenger or freight from point A to point B in the minimal time, and the faster the speed - the closer to the goal you are. Smile
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Astraist
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Speed does not kill. Stopping suddenly (due to a collision) does! Also, it's only the last five feet that hurt!

The whole arguement as to whether "speed kills" or not, when referring to absolute values of speed is completly meaningless, because one can always drive more slowly, down as to not driving at all or moving at a crawling pace of 5km/h. This is why most people that use this argument (that "speed kills") are not people who enjoy driving or motorsport, and simply view driving as some kind of "necessary evil."

The only thing that is relevant is speed relative to the conditions. Does speeding relative to the conditions (either excessive speed or being too slow, as well) kills? Most definetly - Y-E-S! Speed-related collisions like this are often listed under other reasons like tailgating or swerving, and estimation claim that they consist of about 20% of the collisions, even though this is still less than the amount of collisions caused by lack of seperation distance, lack of concentration and other cardinal causes of car collisions.
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GerardWon
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:09 am Reply with quote Back to top

Astraist wrote:
Speed does not kill. Stopping suddenly (due to a collision) does! Also, it's only the last five feet that hurt!

The whole arguement as to whether "speed kills" or not, when referring to absolute values of speed is completly meaningless, because one can always drive more slowly, down as to not driving at all or moving at a crawling pace of 5km/h. This is why most people that use this argument (that "speed kills") are not people who enjoy driving or motorsport, and simply view driving as some kind of "necessary evil."

The only thing that is relevant is speed relative to the conditions. Does speeding relative to the conditions (either excessive speed or being too slow, as well) kills? Most definetly - Y-E-S! Speed-related collisions like this are often listed under other reasons like tailgating or swerving, and estimation claim that they consist of about 20% of the collisions, even though this is still less than the amount of collisions caused by lack of seperation distance, lack of concentration and other cardinal causes of car collisions.


^^ This.
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